Quando começamos a chamar isso de não-código e quem começou?

Honestamente, eu estava pensando muito nisso. Definitivamente não era uma coisa em 2000. E eu sei que o código baixo se tornou um termo muito mais prevalecente, talvez há mais de cinco anos. Portanto, acho que houve alguma iteração de pessoas falando de código e baixo código em algum tipo de caso de uso empresarial onde nenhum código se originou.

Portanto, não sei exatamente de onde se originou, mas foi definitivamente há três anos quando começou a esquentar.

I don't really know the origins of it, to be honest. I think there was a lot of people calling it visual programming before that, or visual development and they even go back far enough and you start to get to things like Yahoo! Pipes, which is a precursor to Zapier, you also look at things like Dreamweaver, which was, you know, perhaps even a precursor to other things, and I'm sure there was stuff even before that, too.

As long as humans have been working on things, we've been trying to find better ways to do them and like with programming languages, always trying to move an abstraction layer up. And to me, no code is trying to move another abstraction layer up the stack to just make it that much easier for folks.

I think, maybe Vlad from Webflow is the first person I heard saying no code. I think we were calling it different things before that I was referring to it is like building something without code. But I think that Vlad is probably the first person I've heard at Webflow call it no code, specifically.

I think last year when Webflow had their huge no-code conference where they started bringing in the term on their stuff and on their actual landing page that we all officially adopted the term.

The no-code movement really took off once VCs got introduced to the marketing jargon that is no-code.

All good engineers want to create applications that enable the users to operate seamlessly within them. So I believe, if anything, it's intensified over the last three to five years with the rise of things like Squarespace, and Webflow and really great visual editing tools.

It actually really started probably in early 2019. The whole Product Hunt team, really, in my opinion, coined the phrase because Ryan Hoover, the CEO of Product Hunt, posted a blog post about no-code in early 2019. And then shortly afterward, Ben Tossell launched Makerpad. So somehow there was magic within the Product Hunt organization that just came up with this thing, but I don't know exactly how else it came to fruition.

I think the reason this category is exploding is that in the next couple years, there will be a billion people that grew up using software. and they don't want to be beholden to people that can create software. When we started in 2018, we didn't even call it no-code, we just wanted to help people build mobile apps faster. I think that the "low-code" or "no-code" terms are less important than just empowering people to build real products and give them leverage to create.

I can't pinpoint it to an exact moment where I was like, “Oh, yes, this must be no-code.” And I think the way that it was introduced to me was really more of a problem that actually exists both in startups and also in large orgs: just alack of resources, and also lack of time to learn on yourself, on your own time. And so it was introduced to me unofficially as no-code by one of my mentors at a company. It basically got introduced to me because I wasn't on the technical team, but was building out new things and was constantly stuck waiting for something to happen.

We're big fans of Webflow. I feel like they've done a really good job of really trying to push the branding of no-code, specifically with creating the no-code conf and really trying to push that angle. And it's not even necessarily a selfish thing, I feel like they're doing a pretty good job of just more broadly carrying all the other tools and services and agencies and everybody that kind of touches the space, in whatever capacity, along with them.

[Eu sei que este não é um conceito novo. Sei que já há algum tempo houve avanços nisto. Eu, olhando para trás, parece-me que a unidade não estava por trás disso e então a tecnologia também não estava por trás disso para realmente trazê-la para onde ela está hoje.

Pelo que posso dizer, a pessoa original que não estava fazendo nenhum código antes que ele não era código era Tara Reed. E eu adoro que ela tenha sido pioneira nisso. E ela estava, você sabe, construindo aplicativos juntos usando o Google Sheets, Typeform e uma página de destino. E isso foi antes mesmo de ser chamado de "sem código". Então, para mim, é para quem eu olho e crédito dizendo que ela foi a primeira a fazer isso, e vender o produto que ela tinha feito não era código.